In short, I suspect that Pat Cleary is in her way no less perverted than her ex-
In short, I suspect that Pat Cleary is in her way no less perverted than her ex-husband, and no less destructive of the two.Misha Naimark’s opinion of Roger Took case
This text has been written as a response to Charlotte Metcalf's article at http://www.dailymail.co.u>kfemail/article-1054110/>Married-upper-class-paedo
Here I am a boatbuilder in Russia (far enough from British Establishment! ) specialising in historical reconstruction, see http://www.sewboat.narod.>ru , http://www.foteviken.se/s>ewnboat , http://www.sewboat.narod.>rushnjaka/english.htm and also some pictures of the boat commissioned by Roger Took from me -- http://fotki.yandex.ru/us>ersdpankrat/album/2550
I know Roger for some 3 years, he visited my place in Russia in 2006 and commissioned a boat from me, as close as possible replica of a mediaeval Novgorod river craft, authentic both in design and building technique.
Roger impressed me as uniquely competent and highly motivated researcher, then engaged in study of mediaeval trade and communications in Eastern Europe and Russia. He actually followed the way of ancient traders himself – he rowed and sailed a small traditional boat for some 5 000 km along river passages from Carelia up till Ural mountains, through rural and totally unpopulated areas. He did all the land portages between different river systems by manpower only, without a slightest cheating (while otherwise in such projects some cheating often occurs – boats being rowed for cameras, and lifted by car trailers over difficult places). The boat I built was meant for further historical expeditions, to study behaviour of an ancient craft in its natural conditions and habitat.
Roger as well collected huge masses of archive data on mediaeval fur trade between Europe and Russia – and he was about to publish a book. (Roger’s previous study was on reindeer herding people of Lapland and Komi, it also included considerable terms of nomadic life in their tundra camps, and resulted into his book “Running with Reindeer”)
In short, Roger Took impressed me as a person of unique accomplishments, fully and sincerely submerged in his studies, – the kind which became extremely rare and valuable nowadays. Any insinuation that all this were just an excuse to visit under-aged prostitutes in Russia sound simply laughable – laughable and outrageous.
I don’t know all the details about his offence and his paedophilia, but I believe it actually amounted just to some fumbling of his step-granddaughters and maybe some other little girls, taking their photos in the nude, and lots of silly chat on the internet. (Between me and Roger, he maintains that there was only one of his step-granddaughters; all charges concerning other victims were fabricated. Indeed, little children are highly suggestible, in such a situation they may answer what interrogators expect from them, rather than what happened in reality, no indictment should be based on this kind of evidence only; even more so, as the difference between a fond kiss or fumbling of a little kid, and sexual child abuse may become disappearingly small here. Where there only one victim, or more, it does not alter the fact of Roger's pervertedness, and it does not sufficiently change my opinion of him – so, before me, for him it would not make sense to deny some offensive episodes from among the number of other episodes. So, watching this media campaign, indeed I am afraid that yes, some of the charges could be fabricated). Anyway, there was no violence, no rape, no physical harm to anybody (and no physical penetration of any kind) – not even the present article by Charlotte Metcalf can mention any direct evidence towards it. Writing hideous fantastic scenarios is no crime, not until Interpol produces a real evidence of murder and violence.
On the other hand, the conduct of his ex-wife, Patricia Cleary, puzzles me. She is very active circulating the defaming information about Roger’s perversion and offence in the newspapers, she makes every effort to find Roger’s friends and sends them copies of those articles. I got an envelope from her, containing such an article translated into Russian, and some other ones by e-mail, even after I told her what I think of it. Evidently, Pat wants as much of this dirty publicity as possible. I cannot fathom her motives, but it can hardly be explained by her wish to protect little girls from a paedophile – Roger is in jail, not dangerous anymore, and people already know enough to guard their little daughters from him. Further, I heard that Pat has destroyed Roger’s entire library, all his scientific materials, photos, expedition diaries – the result of 14 years work of a bright scientist (and work of some others, like myself) – which is a crime deserving a severe punishment.
Roger, and some of his friends, hinted that Pat became somewhat unbalanced mentally – and, considering her conduct, I am inclined to trust them, not her. I imagine a good wife in her place would be very shocked and distressed, but would rather avoid any unnecessary publicity, spare feelings of her children and grandchildren, and try to preserve whatever remains positive about her husband – such as his scientific work. (she would of course inform people on his aberrations, when it looks necessary to protect other little girls).
I am sorry to suspect that Pat either reserves a deep ill will against Roger on some unknown reason , like jealousy indeed; she of course feels cruelly wronged by Roger's deception and seeks vengeance upon him. Or, maybe, she finds a perverted satisfaction in publicity itself, no matter if a dirty publicity. Or, as 'high social position', 'upper class', 'establishment', etc., are so frequently mentioned in the articles, one can even smell what communists used to call 'class hatred' (although, I understood that Pat belong to the upper class, herself). But most likely, some blend of these motives; Roger says he feels as if "her later-life career is now a campaign to vilify me in whatever way is possible". Anyway, she is apparently ready to sacrifice her feelings and reputation, and those of her kids and grand-kids, for the sake of hurting and defaming Roger. Imagine how granddaughters will thank their grandma for the present newspapers, when they grow up and their fiances would find and read those.
In short, I suspect that Pat Cleary is in her way no less perverted than her ex-husband, and no less destructive of the two. And while Roger’s looks more like biological aberration and malady, Pat’s is more like premeditated aggression and ill will.
And finally, I feel some hypocrisy and morbid excitement over this case on the part of the whole British community and media. Their reaction is probably more destructive than the offence itself. Is this right to punish a pervert by blocking his creative scientific activity? I cannot shake off the vision, that if not for this over-reaction, and not for Pat's vengefulness, the whole case cold be handled without police and jail, the paedophile could be stopped, punished, treated, and to an extent cured by less drastic measures, his studies could still benefit the scientific community, readers could get an interesting book, and few little victims could be spared from traumatising police interrogations and publicity.
The articles are loaded with non-informative stuff, calculated just to excite reader’s feelings; who is more harmful – a sick man that writes a perverted scenario and keeps it for closed circle of his fellow sicks, or an allegedly sane newspaper reporter, who prints that perverted text verbatim in his newspaper, to excite a morbid interest in wide public? The aspect of high social position, establishment, etc., is artificially attached to Roger's case in the newspapers -- may be to offer a convenient scapegoat for a discontent lower-class reader's aggression, to give more spin to the story, or some such considerations of the moment. By statistics, sexual aberrations do not correlate with social situation. I never met in person any British friends or colleagues of Roger Took, they only relayed a few messages to me from his prison cell via e-mail. But I think the people who now spoke and wrote on Roger Took's behalf were sampled out just by their awareness of the value of his work, and not by their belonging to any specific social class or establishment.
Certain accumulation of aggression is normal for human mind, and this aggression needs an outlet. It is usually destructive, especially when directed at some scapegoat person, who is not in position to defend himself, like Roger Took in this case. But there exist a smart trick to get something constructive out of aggression -- this is a parliament system with opposition parties (and maybe the trick was invented in Britain!). So instead of letting your aggression out on the scapegoat in useless (and cowardly! – as the subject is not in position to defend) comments like "Kill him twice!" or "How disgusting! Were was the TV, I want it on my screen!" we better divide into two or more parties of different opinions, and direct our natural aggression at the opponents in form of sensible argumentation; this way we have a chance to find something valuable.
For me, say, homosexuals are nor less disgusting than paedophiles, and they are obvious perverts, biologically. But legally they are now considered a rightful minority, and called not perverts, but persons of an “alternative sexual orientation” and getting wed in churches someplaces. By all logic and justice, lawyers must then treat all perverts in the same way, and exclude all usage like “pervert” or “paedophile” from their official lexicon, let alone, use them as an arguments in a court room. In Roger Took's case, they must entirely restrict themselves to the aspects of legal age of his sexual partners and their possible damage, physical or mental.
Examples of some relevance can be drawn from history, like Alan Turing, the founder of computer science (all modern PCs are 'Turing machines', essentially) whose contribution to our civilisation is just immense, and could be even greater; but he was a homosexual, and was convicted by British authorities, treated unsuccessfully and finally commited suicide. One of the darkest and most absurd pages of jurisprudence! Or great Russian composer Peter Chaikovski, who was persecuted for his homosexuality by his envious rivals and was driven to suicide, too. And plenty of other examples of poets, artists, pop singers, etc. It seems that perversion in some cases may increase creativity, as psyche energies cannot find an outlet in normal family life and child raising.
By no means I am advocating or excusing child abuse. But I call for constructive discussion to find rational measures of stopping it, without giving way to vengeance, destructive emotions and actions. We need a cool and correct way of informing and alerting potential victims on a pervert, though without defaming the later, and without a media scandal. Pervert offences where no physical harm was inflicted can be punished, say, by obligation to pay huge pecuniary compensations to the victims for the rest of their life, but the offenders can be allowed to continue their work, studies, etc.
P.S. To people like this "Cipriano Mera" here http://1960-no-surrender.>blogspot.com2008/07/surr>ender-retracted.html I can tell my actual address:
Misha Naimark
Kuganavolok
Pudozh region
186154 Carelia
Russia
However, paper mail will be eventually forwarded to me even from that Moscow address, and telephone messages (in Russian) relayed.
P.P.S. I made numerous attempts to post a comment on the Charlotte Metcalf's article web page http://www.dailymail.co.u>kfemail/article-1054110/>Married-upper-class-paedo
P.P.P.S. As I understood, many of Rogers's colleagues and friends, who support him, are now afraid to express their opinion openly – because this would probably introduce their names into a next yellow article in a newspaper, and a mention in the yellow press can damage a career and make all sorts of problems even to perfectly honest people. Further, many of Roger's supporters received anonymous articles and even threats through the post. This is a VERY ALARMING development – the situation features basic signs of political terror – namely, it became dangerous to openly express alternative and opposing opinions. With the aid of yellow media Pat is successfully hijacking democracy and materialising her petty regime, silencing her opponents physically, threatening their career, as bad as employing anonymous threats. To the list of Pat's possible motives I can now add, that maybe she just suddenly felt the taste of power over people, when she discovered she can silence anyone so easily, and this gave her enormous motivation for the campaign. I feel sort of obligation to speak out, and draw public attention to these facts, as I live in Russia, far out of reach of this "regime".
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